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Hurco VMX42 WinMax software problem
At work I run a Hurco VMX42, I'm not positive but I think the software build is 08.01.09.24.
A few months ago the XMP board that controls XYZ axis went kaput and the following error message was displayed: 'No motion control boards were detected in the system'. The board was replaced, as was the 'backing board' (the board that all of the other drive boards plug in to, basically the motherboard) and the cable that connects the two XMP boards to one-another. The system was also reformatted, because the service technicians that worked the case felt like the software had gone corrupt after another error message was displayed (though I forget what exactly that message was).
A few days after the work was done, during axis calibration, I got an error message reading 'MEI XMP motion controller subsystem failure' and the system shut down. I powered down and restarted, and all was well. I let my manager and boss know, and that's as far as that message went...
This morning, after calibrating and warming up the machine, and then completing a program, I was away from the machine for maybe 15 minutes while it sad idle. I came back to the machine to find that the 'MEI XMP motion controller subsystem failure' message had returned. I powered down and restarted, and all was well again. Almost exactly 2 hours later, the same thing happened, the machine was sitting idle and the error occurred. It happened twice more after that, once while manually touching off a tool (jogging Z-) and again while cutting a (very expensive and complex ) part.
What's going on here? My manager promises we'll call Hurco or Brooks Associates in the morning. I just thought I'd bounce this off the community to see what other ideas are out there for what's going on. - Plastic
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Re: Hurco VMX42 WinMax software problem
I was wrong. The software build is 08.01.09.23 ST.
Any takers? Currently in the middle of disabling the 4th axis RMB module to try running machine as a 3 axis... - Plastic
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Re: Hurco VMX42 WinMax software problem
So this is still going on. Service tech. rewired power to the suspect board, thinking there was enough of a power blip to kick the alarm. The board now gets 24V from another source, but despite the new 'clean' power, the machine continues to alarm out while running as a 4 axis machine.
Before he did that, he also rewired a 'known trouble connection', one which is known to fail or be poorly manufactured ( ? really? ) resulting in power supply issues. He cut the connector and soldered the wires straight to the board. An hour and a half after he left from that visit the machine alarmed out and refused to run as a 4 axis.
I'm at my wits end. We're falling further behind on a few jobs because of it. I feel bad for the service tech., he's going nuts over it too!
Is there ANYBODY else who has seen this or something similar?Last edited by KChurch86; 04-06-2013 at 06:57 AM.
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Is the service tech in direct contact with Hurco trying to fix this? If not, he should be.
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Yes sir, he has been in contact with them, as have I. Between he, myself, and my shop's programmer; we've sent no fewer than 4 exception reports and data logs pulled from the machine's hard drive.Originally Posted by 67CudaIs the service tech in direct contact with Hurco trying to fix this? If not, he should be.
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What are the last four letters of the serial number? Depending on this, it may be wise to find out where the new 24v has been sourced from.
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Ah, I've just noticed that it had a backplane changed. This makes it an ISA platform. Was the power supply changed? There is no other source of 24v in that cabinet. The 24v supply is what will give that error if it blips sufficiently low. It may be that you have something else that is breaking down and causing the 24v to dip and will cause this. See if you can tell when it happens as there are only a few things that use 24v from the supply.
Things that will cause this are:
Bad relays or the diodes in the relay bases (they are in the little LED block in the relay base).
Proximity switches in the toolchanger.
Limit switches.
A pinched cable. The most common one being to the unclamp button on the head cover.
The thing with re-wiring the backplane with soldered joints is purely a precautionary one - for mostly intermittent faults, it's a good idea and quickly done. - Plastic
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I can't tell you that right now, but come Monday morning I'll check it out and post it here.Originally Posted by RooosterWhat are the last four letters of the serial number? Depending on this, it may be wise to find out where the new 24v has been sourced from.Thanks for that info! No, for whatever reason the power supply has not been changed - though it's probably where I might start, if it were me.Originally Posted by RooosterAh, I've just noticed that it had a backplane changed. This makes it an ISA platform. Was the power supply changed? There is no other source of 24v in that cabinet. The 24v supply is what will give that error if it blips sufficiently low. It may be that you have something else that is breaking down and causing the 24v to dip and will cause this. See if you can tell when it happens as there are only a few things that use 24v from the supply.
Things that will cause this are:
Bad relays or the diodes in the relay bases (they are in the little LED block in the relay base).
Proximity switches in the toolchanger.
Limit switches.
A pinched cable. The most common one being to the unclamp button on the head cover.
The thing with re-wiring the backplane with soldered joints is purely a precautionary one - for mostly intermittent faults, it's a good idea and quickly done.
It doesn't seem to matter what the machine is doing when it happens. It's alarmed out while:
- Sitting idle
- Running the calibration sequence
- Running the warm up cycle
- Running an NC/Conversational program, while rapiding, feeding, milling, drilling, tapping, etc.
It has never (knock on wood) alarmed out during a tool change cycle.
I find the pinched cable theory particularly interesting, especially the wires to the un-clamp button. We (somewhat) recently had the spindle drive belt inspected/adjusted, twice, with the cover removed and reinstalled 3 different times, by 3 different people.
First thing I'm doing Monday morning is getting the last 4 characters of the serial number. Second thing I'm doing is removing the head cover and checking out the wires to the clamp/un-clamp button! I'll post my findings here. Thank you both!! - Cast Iron
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I shouldn't worry about the serial number. I was going to use it to ascertain the control type. It was then I remembered you had said it had a backplane changed. If it had an ITX control, it would have two 24v supplies and It would be easier to work out where the service guy got a 'new' 24v source.
Changing the supply won't change the fault if it is in a relay base although it will be easy to chase the fault as it will only ever happen on relays that are active at the time. If it does it whilst idle, there are only about four relays active and swapping each individually with relay 9 (the indexer relay - usually not used for anything) will prove it out quickly. - Hot Rolled
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If you are having a New England Hurco dealer work on your machine, I would use caution.Originally Posted by KChurch86Yes sir, he has been in contact with them, as have I. Between he, myself, and my shop's programmer; we've sent no fewer than 4 exception reports and data logs pulled from the machine's hard drive. - Plastic
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To avoid public bashing of Brooks, can you PM me some details about your experience with them?Originally Posted by solidworkscadmanIf you are having Brooks & Associates work on your machine, I would use caution.
Just speaking from experience.
FWIW, it's not up to me, my boss likes them so that's who we use on our TM6, VMX42, and sometimes our Kitamuras too. - Plastic
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Re: Hurco VMX42 WinMax software problem
Well, the tool clamp/un-clamp button has no pinched wires.
Dang, I really wanted to play hero today, haha. - ScottAtHurcoAluminum
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I am Regional Manager for Hurco in East. PM me with your contact info - I would like to chat with you on this.
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